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Post by neXus on Sun Nov 17 2013, 15:25

yes. debian is very good as long as it isn't ubuntu xD
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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by vega on Sun Nov 17 2013, 15:30

neXus wrote:yes. debian is very good as long as it isn't ubuntu xD
Haha we were using ubuntu in the beginning xD

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Post by Avallac'h on Sun Nov 17 2013, 15:55

ok thank you vega perhaps i will install Linux so ! Very Happy

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Post by vega on Sun Nov 17 2013, 16:05

I wont i stay with my windows 8 Very Happy

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Post by Avallac'h on Sun Nov 17 2013, 16:17

for the moment i stay with my Windows 7 on my computer and with my Windows 8 on my netbook ! Very Happy Or perhaps i will make the two operating system ! Wink Then i will have the choice ! Very Happy

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Post by vega on Sun Nov 17 2013, 16:22

Haha indeed Smile I used to have linux a few years ago but i moved back to windows idk why Very Happy

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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by Avallac'h on Sun Nov 17 2013, 16:42

because ! ( it's only this explain i found Wink )

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Post by vega on Sun Nov 17 2013, 17:13

haha no its easier to use thats probably why Smile

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Post by Avallac'h on Sun Nov 17 2013, 18:04

ah ah ! Very Happy Why why ? a lot of questions ! Very Happy

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Post by vega on Sun Nov 17 2013, 18:47

Idk i just find windows easier to use

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Post by Avallac'h on Sun Nov 17 2013, 18:57

Ok ok ! Very Happy Just what mean IDK ?

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Post by vega on Sun Nov 17 2013, 19:10

idk = i dont know Wink

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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by Avallac'h on Sun Nov 17 2013, 19:18

Thank you ! Wink

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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by neXus on Sun Nov 17 2013, 21:05

vega wrote:
neXus wrote:yes. debian is very good as long as it isn't ubuntu xD
Haha we were using ubuntu in the beginning xD

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:O bad thing to begin with. it's a total memory eater, even though it's based on debian
whereas debian is "vanilla" (stock, no additions) and is improved for lower memory use. it's good that you stay on debian for now Very Happy
but in the future i'd recommend any Arch-based OS that has all drivers included (e.g. : Manjaro)
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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by mic on Thu Nov 28 2013, 00:24

I'm not so sure about this memory eater thingy. My ubuntu server uses 167 MB memory at the moment, which isn't that much. Also there are lightweigth guis which you can use like xfce or lxde which are very memory friendly. Sometimes it can be handy that ubuntu supports more up to date packages than debian. E.g. ssds where supported in debian much later (at least without testing repository). Also a google search for problems will usually be a feel good experience with ubuntu whereas debian searches often tend to warp you in strange forum threads beginning with "did you try .." Smile

Apart from that debian is certainly a good choice for a server & slackware really sounds interesting!

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Post by mic on Thu Nov 28 2013, 00:32

Are you running the server with a gui btw? Vega's search for dropbox made me think you might do so Smile As far as I know this is considered not so good style for it uses more ressources and is also kind of a security issue.

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Post by mic on Thu Nov 28 2013, 01:24

An interesting read: http://www.linuxatemyram.com ... i figured just out that in fact I only use 128 MB at the moment.

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Post by mic on Thu Nov 28 2013, 02:26

Hm ... after further reading; 128MB is not really that efficient. There is an ubuntu minimal installation which should use less memory. Also debian probably really uses less. Kwakie - what's the memory usage on our server?

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Post by vega on Thu Nov 28 2013, 09:09

Kwakkie has found this: http://www.vandorp.biz/2012/01/installing-a-lightweight-lxdevnc-desktop-environment-on-your-ubuntudebian-vps/

Which is using almost nothing, it even didn't hve a text editor. Also i uninstalled dropbox but its back on it, did you do that kwakkie?

ps.: miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic! Surprised

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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by mic on Thu Nov 28 2013, 11:44

Veeeegaaaaa! Smile Or more general: eleeeemeeents! Long time no hear.
About the gui I also found:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI
Though I admit that it's probably a theoretical discussion, and lxde should be fine.
Though I wanted to mention that some file managers let you include servers via ssh/scp ... as a result you can access the filesystem of the server / edit / copy files etc like usual with a gui on your local machine. Only commands, like creating new users, starting services, configuring firewall etc. would have to be done via command-line / shell. This way only the ports for ssh and nexuiz would have to be opened on the server.
Also btw. I figured out that it can be handy to change the ssh port (after allowing the new ssh port in the firewall Smile. When I had servers running in the wild (internet) logwatch (a really cool tool for server administration) pointed out that there are quiet regular portscans on standard ports like 22 or 80.


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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by vega on Thu Nov 28 2013, 14:26

so instead of port 13000 we need to take 22 or 80?

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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by Kwakkiezalf on Thu Nov 28 2013, 20:18

Vega,

I did not install dropbox again. No idea what happend there.

What vega is saying, is that the ssh port (which u access by a putty) is normally prot 22. People who like to hack into systems scan on there kind of ports, and than try to hack in system. We could change to another port, but no issue i think.

In case of hack, we just reinstall :-)

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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by mic on Thu Nov 28 2013, 20:42

(dang somehow my reply - which was very profound - got lost!!!)

But exactly kwak! Probably no neet to worry. But changing ssh port is a thing of 2 minutes. Also you could - in case you use ufw - set "ufw limit ssh" which blocks an IP after too many login attempts per minute.

The thing is that many automated checks take place on common ports like 22 or 80, so no human interaction needed. I used to have at least one or two per day when my server was running.

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Re: Ever used Linux?

Post by Kwakkiezalf on Thu Nov 28 2013, 22:16

Thx mic,

I changed port. Vega... if u log in with putty port has changes from 22 to six + 4 2's :-)

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